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Sean Dove: Good afternoon ladies and gentlemen, my name is Sean Dove. I’m one of the senior enrollment advisors here at Ohio University’s College of Business program. I’d like to welcome you to our open house today where we’ll have the chance to go over all of our graduate programs that we offer online, give you the opportunity to speak to some of the faculty and the program directors and get a lot of your questions answered. Today is going to be a pretty informal event. As we’re going through the information, if you have any questions that you’d like to have somebody answer, be aware that there is a question and answer box on your screen. Feel free to put your questions in there. We have dedicated an individual who’s going to be watching that for us and we will get those questions answered for you as quickly as possible.
Sean Dove: Just to give you an idea of what we’re going to be covering today, we have the agendas up there on the screen. Basically we’re going to go over some quick introductions and then we’re going to get into the meat of the program for you. We’re going to discuss a little bit about what each of these programs can offer you, as you continue on in your career. Some of the different highlights of the program, specifically the Leadership Development Program and the Athletic Leadership Forum, and then obviously give you the chance to hear from the faculty and hear about the different services that we do provide our students to ensure that you’re not out there on your own, you’re going to have a support team that’s going to help you to help you ensure your success as you go through the program. And then again, obviously get all of your questions answered.
Sean Dove: As I mentioned before, my name is Sean Dove. I’m one of the senior enrollment advisors here at the College of Business and I have here with me Sonali and Kim, if you two would like to introduce yourself.
Sonali Ibanez: Hello everyone. My name is Sonali Ibanez, and I am an enrollment advisor. I do enroll for Ohio University’s graduate programs and mostly in the College of Business and I’m looking forward to speaking to you all today.
Kim Moy: Awesome. Hey everyone. My name is Kimberly Moy. I am a program specialist for Ohio University’s College of Business. I’m the one who will be reminding you of all the good things in the group chat and answering some of the questions in the Q&A. So don’t forget that Q&A box, that’s how we’ll be communicating. Thanks so much, Sean.
Sean Dove: Thank you ladies. We also have the opportunity to hear from some of the program directors and the faculty on the program. Dr. Stevens, would you mind introducing yourself? Just give us a little bit about your background and what you do here with Ohio University.
Jennifer S.: Sure. Welcome. My name is Jennifer Stevens and I am the program director for our online Master of Accountancy program. I have an undergraduate degree in accounting as well as a Master of Accountancy. And then I have a PhD in accounting as well. I have big four accounting experience along with a boutique consulting firm. I also previously taught at the University of Notre Dame and now I’m here at Ohio University and I love it. And I helped develop our Masters of Accountancy program and I’m really proud of the program and think that the curriculum is really outstanding as well as the faculty.
Jennifer S.: So accounting is a great field with tons of job opportunities and accounting is a versatile degree. So because all aspects of the business run through the accounting system, employers know that those with an accounting background have a strong understanding of business in general, yet also hold the quantitative skills necessary for upper level decision making. So our Masters of Accountancy really build to these quantitative skills and focuses on information and decision making.
Sean Dove: Thank you. Dr. Stevens. We also have Professor Walton. She’s the head of our Athletic Administration program. Kelley, would you like to introduce yourself to the audience?
Kelley Walton: I would. Thanks so much Sean. My name is Kelley Walton. I am the director of the Masters of Athletic Administration program, which is a very specific program targeted to individuals who want to work in interscholastic athletic administration or basically middle school and high school athletic departments. My background is, I’m a lawyer and have extensive experience working in sports. I worked for 10 years in the sport industry and legal and human resources positions. I teach a variety of courses, legal and HR related courses. But our curriculum is really designed to get our students ready to lead an athletic department. Athletic departments are small in high schools and middle schools where it’s usually one, two, maybe three people. So we provide a broad range of business acumen for them from fundraising to marketing, human resources, the legal and compliance issues that athletic directors face. So we’re much more of a specific focus than the accounting program. And I’m glad to be here and glad to answer any questions that that perspective students might have about our MAA program.
Sean Dove: Thanks. We also have with us the director of our Masters in Management program, Dr. Taylor-Bianco. Doctor, would you mind introducing yourself and talk a little bit, just a brief overview of the MSM program and we’ll go from there.
Amy T.B: Okay, great. Thank you. I’m Amy Taylor-Bianco and I’m really excited to be leading our new Masters in Management program. It’s a really interesting versatile yet targeted program where you can concentrate in a few different areas of interest while deepening your knowledge in management and leadership. So it’s a great opportunity to take a deep dive into management and leadership and increase your job prospects and your mobility.
Amy T.B: My background real quickly, I was a liberal arts undergrad major. Like many people who may be interested in this, I had a different undergrad background, but then I went and started working in business and I worked at one of the big fours and then I went to JPMorgan Chase and I worked in international HR. And then I went back to my alma mater at Columbia University and I led our master’s program in organizational change, which has some similar characteristics. But I have to say, I think this program is amazing and can’t wait to tell you more about it and all the talented faculty who are involved in it. Thank you.
Sean Dove: Thank you so much doctor. We also have with us today a couple of other faculty that we have working on our MBA programs or the College of Business program. First off, Dr. Foehl, would you mind introducing yourself and telling us a little bit about your background and what you do here?
Robert Foehl: Yes. Good morning or good afternoon everybody. I’m glad to have everyone here. My name is Robert Foehl and I’m an executive in residence here in the College of Business at Ohio University and executive in residence for business ethics and for business law. My background is I spent 25 years in industry practicing law and ethics. Probably the more significant component of that career had to do with spending a decade working for Target Corporation, the retailer and being Target Corporations first director of corporate ethics and compliance for the entire enterprise.
Robert Foehl: But I’ve also had a career that spans a number of years dealing with or working in multinational corporations and being the chief legal officer for an international organization as well. I teach both in the online MBA program as well as on the faculty and the Masters in Management program, where I’ll be the certificate lead for the human resources management certificate there and be teaching employee relations, ethics and legal aspects of human resources management. So more on that to come. But just to welcome everybody, I’m glad to have all you guys here.
Sean Dove: Thank you Professor Foehl. And then finally we have, Dr. Panagopoulos who is with us. He’s also a faculty member. Dr Panagopoulos again, would you mind introducing yourself and just telling us a little bit about your background?
Panagopoulos: Yeah, sure. Hi everyone. This is Dr. Panagopoulos, Nik Panagopoulos. I am the lead faculty for the sales certificate. I am at Ohio University right now. I am the director of executive education and international sales for the Schey Sales Center. A little bit about my background, I’m a statistician, I have a PhD in sales. I’ve been working with companies. I’ve been providing executive education about consulting as well for about 19 years now and we have designed this great certificate for anybody in the sales area. We are targeting people across the board and the hierarchy of sales, entry level positions like in sales and account management. Anybody who is about to transition and go up to inner management or leadership position might find benefits in our sales certificate and the way we have designed this, providing soft skills and hard quantitative skills in sales analytic for instance.
Sean Dove: Thank you so much doctor. Now as we get ready to go into a little bit of the meat of the program here, I just want to remind everybody once again about the Q&A box there. Please utilize that. Kim is in here eagerly looking forward to answering your questions or making sure that it gets on the list so that we have our faculty answer them for you since that’s the whole point of today. You want to hear from the faculty, so we want to make sure that we get them your questions so that you can get those answered.
Sean Dove: To start off with, let’s look at the Athletic Administration program, what you can expect to get out of this program. One of the great things about this program is even though there is not an internship required with it, you are going to get so much hands on training doing the actual work that you’d be working as an athletic director that the day you graduate you’ll be able to sit down at the AD’s desk and run with it at that point. And that’s going to be crucial for you because as Professor Walton mentioned earlier, most high schools in the United States here, you are there by yourself. You’re on an island by yourself. So if you don’t know how to do it, it either doesn’t get done or it gets done wrong. And so we, this program is going to prepare you to where you can handle that on your own, plus the network that you’re going to be able to further our athletic directors and coaches throughout the nation by going through this program so it can be invaluable to you throughout the rest of your degree program here.
Sean Dove: And we can you go ahead and … Oh, I’m sorry, Kim. Yeah.
Kim Moy: Yeah. We actually already have a question about the online MAA program. So Professor Walton, we have a question from Mr. Jared Stuck and he is just wondering a little bit about the registered Athletic Administration license and what does really our program entail outside of the registrated admin?
Kelley Walton: Sure. His question is, there are several … it’s not really a license, but it’s a certification. There are several certifications that students or athletic directors can earn through the NIAAA. And we have a great relationship with the NIAAA. And his question was basically if he’s taken some of those courses, does that complete some of the coursework for our master’s degree? Fantastic question. And the easy answer is no, but let me explain. Our courses do utilize some LTC training materials or the NIAAA’s leadership training materials, but they don’t replace our coursework. Our coursework is much more in depth and much more detailed than the NIAAA’s leadership training courses. So in a situation like that, if somebody has already taken those courses and received that certification, we would work with them to make sure that they weren’t also having to pay for the materials while they were taking our courses.
Kelley Walton: But our courses are our seven week condensed, three credit hour courses that are very extensive and in depth and provide a lot of opportunity for practical learning and some experiential learning as well to do some practical assignments. So that’s very different than how the LTCs are run. But that is a great question and it probably does not make a lot of sense to the people who are on this call right now. So that’s going to be my quick answer for Jared, I was actually just trying to answer it in the chat box for him as well, but it has taken me a while. I’m glad you asked. I’m going to leave it there because it’s such a pointed question for a very few people and most of the people on here probably don’t know what those LTCs and the NIAAAs are, but I will finish up with Jared offline to make sure he understands what he could get as far as not having to double pay for those materials.
Kim Moy: Awesome. Thanks so much Professor Walton and we have a little bit more about the MAA program coming a little bit later as well. So we are going to move on to the next slide.
Sonali Ibanez: Hello, everyone this is Sonali again and now we’re just going to be discussing how our programs will be beneficial to you post graduation and some career outcomes. Some of the career outcomes as you can see are listed above. And this is some of the things that you would be eligible for with a Masters of Accountancy degree. We have also listed our range of median salary, so please do take into consideration that it does range based on your location as well.
Kim Moy: I have a question for Dr. Stevens here. Dr. Stevens, what are some of the online Master of Accountancy program takeaways. We see the jobs here, but aside from the jobs, what can students to take away from the program?
Jennifer S.: Sure. We’ve really created a case space curriculum that is going to teach you principles but then require you to apply them in real world settings. So we’re really working on problem solving skills, turning data into information. So the problem with the 20th century was lack of data. The problem with the 21st century is too much data. And accountants are very good at taking that financial data and turning it into usable information for decision making. And so in our program, we’re really trying to focus on the big picture and build those skills that you’re going to need for executive decision making.
Sonali Ibanez: Awesome. Thanks so much. All righty. Some of the career outcomes for our Masters of Business Administration program are listed such as the business development manager, supply chain manager. So there are endless amount of career possibilities with your MBA program that will be open to you.
Sonali Ibanez: Also looking into some career outcomes for our Masters of Business Analytics programs, in this program you’re basically going to learn how to interpret data, which as Dr. Stevens mentioned earlier, we have a lot of data. So with that being said, data is worth more than oil now. So just learning how to interpret it and learning how to mitigate these organizational risks in these industries, you will have a lot of job opportunities open for you because data is in every type of industry. So as I mentioned earlier, just consider where you are living. These are just median salaries and they do range.
Sonali Ibanez: And then some of the career outcomes for the Masters in Science of Management are listed above as well. You can expect getting a job as a supply chain manager, human resource manager, business management analyst. If you even look into the US Bureau of Labor Statistics, you will be able to find more, job opportunities, the expectation of the pay range with this master’s degree.
Kim Moy: I guess I have a quick question from the audience. This one is for Dr. Taylor-Bianco. So this program is a newer program in our College of Business. How would you say this program differs from an MBA?
Amy T.B: That’s a really good question. The general area with that and an MBA versus the Masters of Science in Management are somewhat similar, but it’s the area that you focused in on. Like if you were to take sort of a microscope and focus in, the master’s in management is really allowing you to learn to better navigate people in processes throughout the organization. So as you move up, whereas the MBA is a general business degree teaching you to look across the organization. The Masters in Management is a focus degree on the management and leadership processes within the system. And it also gives you two areas of concentration, which can be similar to the MBA. So they work well together as well, but some of those areas of concentration are human resources or analytics or supply chain. So there are some areas that crossover as well. Does that answer your question or do you have a further question?
Kim Moy: I think so. That was very helpful. We’ll go more into program information a little bit later in this webinar. So I think that is a great overview for now.
Sonali Ibanez: Okay. And back to some career outcomes for our graduate business certificates, whether you’re looking to specialize in trending topics, you will definitely be able to apply this to your job today and even give you a leg up in the competitive industries with acquiring to Graduate Business Certificate. And also, we do make these certificates stackable and you are able to apply them to some of our master’s programs.
Sean Dove: Thank you Sonali and thank you to our faculty who jumped in there. And thank you for giving us some questions to feed to the faculty. Your participation is greatly appreciated here. Right now, I’d like to talk to you a little bit about, probably one of the biggest highlights of all the programs that we do offer here at Ohio University. And that’s the opportunity to come to campus, meet your fellow students, meet your professors, and really get a sense of campus life here at Ohio University to help you build that strong tie to the actual university here. And as you can see on the page there, obviously I’m talking about our Leadership Development Program for the MBA business analytics, Masters of Accountancy and the Masters of Management program here.
Sean Dove: With this program, what’s going to happen with this is, this takes place twice a year, but students are only required to attend one of them. Ideally you want to go to your first Leadership Development Program that is going to be offered for you. For instance, if you’re going to be starting with us this spring in January, you would not come to campus until August of next year. So you’ve got a good eight months to plan for it. And then once you get to the university, this is included in your tuition, your hotel’s taken care of, as well as most of your food and drink as well.
Sean Dove: During this time, the whole purpose of it is we’re going to bring in national speakers and trainers to come in and work off all of our students. The reason we do this is most people when they receive a master’s degree, whether that be an MBA or a Masters in Management or a Masters in Accountancy, they usually wind up stuck in middle management. They sit there for years. Since our alumni is our best advertising in billboards we want to see you move up out of the middle management and move up into the higher ranks. So to help you do that, we want to equip you all the tools that you need in order to move up into the higher level. And that’s going to be your leadership skills. Being able to navigate, personal relationships of others in your department, managing your teams and being successful is that you can move up quickly within the program.
Sean Dove: And so how we actually do that, we partner with the Ohio University’s Walton Center for Strategic Leadership. Like I mentioned earlier, we do bring in national speakers and trainers to work with all of our students. Just to give you an idea of the caliber of the talent that we bring in to help you, this past August for the Saturday morning breakfast session, not even the keynote speaker, we had Tom McKinsey here. And just to give you a little bit about his background, he’s been the vice president of marketing of the following companies. We have Papa Murphy’s, Bob Evans, restaurants, KFC restaurants, the Elmore’s products, and then started out at Wendy’s restaurants as a vice president of marketing there. He was actually hired by Dave Thomas himself.
Sean Dove: So that’s the level of talent, and he came in and did a 45 minute talk on personal branding. And that’s just the Saturday morning session. So you can imagine what the talent is like throughout the entire whole weekend there. It takes place on a Friday morning and runs through that Saturday evening. You’re going to have general sessions where everybody comes together. It’s an outstanding opportunity for you to get to meet all the students in your class with you, which is unique in the online world because usually what most online programs, the other students in your class, they’re just the name and or an email address that you see. You never really get to know them.
Sean Dove: Here at Ohio University, we want you to build that strong network for professional peers that’s going to assist you throughout your entire career. So you actually get to meet everybody face to face. Everybody that you’re hearing here on the phone, whether it be the program directors and faculty, they’re there to meet you as well. So you really get to get the bond with the program, the students and the faculty, which is unique here with Ohio. They’re going to have breakout sessions that are going to be focused on different subjects that may be a personal relevance or interest to you. So you get a little bit of flexibility with it but overall, you’re going to have a lot of fun with this. You’re going to be exhausted by the end of the weekend, but you’re going to have a lot of fun.
Sean Dove: Now, with our Athletic Administration program, we have our Athletic Leadership Forum. This takes place towards the end of June or the last week. It’s the second to the last week of June and it’s towards the weekend. So therefore, for all of our coaches and athletic directors, there’s no sports in season at that point typically. So it gives the most flexibility to come up at university. Again, with this, you’re going to get to meet all the fellow students in your class. Actually, Professor Walton, why don’t you discuss what’s going on with the athletic leadership forum since we just spoke about it yesterday and some of the great things that feedback that you’re getting from our students. I think you’re the subject matter expert there. Let’s hear from you.
Kelley Walton: Sure. I’m glad to talk about the forum. We had a fantastic forum last year and we’re looking forward to another fantastic forum coming up in 2020. We do it at the end of June, so that it’s easy for students from all over. We have students from, California, Texas, Ohio as well. New York, Michigan, Florida. We had a student who is in an American school in Japan that was in for the forum. And so we try to make it so that all of our students can make it. It is something that most students take after their second semester of the program. So they’ve had at least a couple of semesters in before they come to the forum. So it wouldn’t be something for anybody starting in January. They would come in 2021.
Kelley Walton: But we will have the same optimists coming up in 2021 where we do about two thirds of classwork with some of the current courses that they have, just good assignments and work that are good to do in person. A third of it is leadership training. We have a national speaker come in from Safe Sport Zone that does Safe Sport Zone event management training. So our students come away with a certificate and the Safe Sport Zone training for event management. We have three, four hours of leadership training. But on top of that, I think one of the most important things is the networking with our cohort members with other students in the program. We usually have about 80 to 100 students come in for this. Getting to know people who are going through the same things or who are all trying to get the same type of positions and in the same career path and creating a good network there and being connected with Ohio University.
Kelley Walton: We did a tour of our facilities and it’s one thing that a lot of high school and middle school athletic directors don’t get to tour a college facility. So we go through our, football stadium, our practice field and our basketball arena and a variety things like that to get them connected to our campus as well and give them a little behind the scenes that makes sense to them once they go through our facilities class. It’s a great event. Great event. Students love it. When they leave they’re like it’s one of those things that it’s kind of hard, especially when you’re coming from or Texas, but everyone says it’s been a fantastic weekend and I’m one of the best parts of the program.
Sean Dove: Thank you Professor Walton. I know I’ve had a couple of students that were living in Brussels teaching at the American School in Brussels and they came over from it and they could not talk enough praise about what you and your faculty have put on for that week and they came here. So, yeah, I can you verify what you’re saying that I’m hearing from students that have, actually, I think they’ve graduated now. But yeah, they thought it was well worth their time. We invest coming over from Europe for this. It’s just brought to my attention that I completely left out the doctor Stevens or perhaps even on Professor Foehl and Panagopoulos. Do you have anything that you’d like to share about the Leadership Development Program for the rest of the college of business?
Sean Dove: Okay. We’ll go ahead and move on then. Feel free to jump in at any point if you have anything that you’d like to add regarding that. At this point I want to tell you what separates Ohio University from a lot of other universities out there that do offer online programs and that mainly is the support that we offer all of our students. Before I go too much further, we’re still getting a lot of emails and questions in the Q&A. Again, if you haven’t, go ahead and ask those in. Kim, did you-
Kim Moy: Nope.
Sean Dove: Nope. Okay. Yep. Keep those questions coming in. We will get those answered for you. But I’ll go on and talk about the support that we offer our online students here. In addition, as most of you probably already seen if you spoken to an advisor, you’re going to have a dedicated enrollment advisor that’s going to be working with you throughout the entire time as you’re trying to get information on the program. And then we’re here to assist you as you go through the whole application process.
Sean Dove: Our job is twofold. First off, we’re here to help make sure you have the information that you need in order that you can make an informed decision on that. And part of that is going to be to help you determine if this program would be a good fit for what you’re looking to accomplish. For example, we’ll occasionally get people that are looking for the MBA program. They want to take the concentration in business analytics. Well, after talking to them, we find out that they’re wanting to either start a career or advance their career in analytics and honestly that would not be the best fit for them. The ideal program for them to get into would be the Masters of Business Analytics. That’s the one that’s going to go far more in depth and help you within that field. So when you talk to an advisor, we’re going to ask you questions, find out your background to find out what you’re looking to do to make sure that we’re not shortchanging you with the value that you could receive from your education here at Ohio University.
Sean Dove: And then the second half of it is we’re going to be working with you to ensure that your application as strong as possible. We’ll be working with you as far as through the application process, meaning your resume, your essay that you’ll need to submit. Run that past us. We know what the committee is looking for. We can make sure that you’re checking off all the boxes to keep your application as strong as possible as we’re going through that. Then once you get accepted into the program, you’ll be working with your student support specialist. And I’ll go into a little bit more detail about what they do here in a second to and then obviously you’re going to have your program faculty and the program director. But before I move on, Sonali, is there anything that you’d like to add about the services that the enrollment advisors provide to our students?
Sonali Ibanez: Yeah. We do help you at the end of the day find a program that fits best for you and we are definitely here to help with any questions you have, the application process with the program. So if you have any questions and you haven’t spoken with an enrollment advisor yet, please do reach out to us or continue reaching out to your enrollment advisor that you are working with for [inaudible 00:30:52] anyway. Thank you.
Kim Moy: Awesome. I do have a couple questions about online programs in general. This one is for you Dr. Foehl. A lot of our students are concerned about balancing both of working and taking classes. So basically the question is, will I be able to take courses while working?
Robert Foehl: Yeah. That’s a really great question and certainly a common concern when considering work life balance and all that sort of thing. The simple answer to this is yes. The reality is, the way these programs work when we’re thinking about designing our courses and our programs from an online perspective, we design them with a thought of working professionals in mind. And so, as mentioned before, a lot of times the courses are seven weeks long and the vast majority of the participants in these courses are actually working and so they’re professionals. And so we designed them with that in mind.
Robert Foehl: And the other thing I would say is, the other thing that can be challenging as well, it’s related to this is for a number of students, they’re getting back into an academic environment for the first time in a number of years as well. And so I think the courses are designed with that in mind as well and designed to be highly practical. I can tell you for example, in the courses that I teach and I know that the course of the many others teach, things like case studies are used quite often so our students can understand the practical ramifications or the practical applications of the concepts that we’re talking about and discussing and teaching, and be able to apply those concepts to actual business scenarios. That’s a very frequent type of activity that happens in a number of these courses. And a lot of it, again, is just designed with the idea that we know that the students are our adult professionals and so they’re designed that way from its outset. So maybe a little too wordy to answer the question, but yes, I think it’s a perfectly doable if you’re working full-time.
Robert Foehl: And the other thing is I would say is that the faculty members in these programs tend to be very easy to work with, very sensitive to concerns, wanting their students to succeed as well. And so I think, should you get into a program and you’re having a tougher time with balancing your professional obligations with your academic obligations, there are opportunities to communicate about that and to be able to work through that in order to keep you progressing and moving forward.
Kim Moy: Love it. Thank you so much for that answer. I think that definitely answers it. Dr. Taylor-Bianco, this can be very easy for you. How long in general does it take to complete an online master’s degree program through the College of Business?
Amy T.B: The Masters in Management program-
Kim Moy: Sure.
Amy T.B: It can be as long or as short. The Masters in Management I know can be done within 24 months. It’s also a program where you can stop in and stop out. So you can do a certificate, a three course sequence and then stop out for say a period of time. Maybe you don’t want to be taking classes in the summer or something else and then you can jump back into it. But 24 months is the length of that program. I’m not sure about all of the different programs.
Kim Moy: Yes. And thank you very much for that. Did you have comment?
Sean Dove: Dr. Foehl, if you wouldn’t mind also giving them from the MBA perspective, how long does it take to typically complete the online MBA program?
Robert Foehl: Thank you. I think the program is 35 total semester credit hours and it takes six semesters to complete. And so you’re talking six semesters and then each semester we’ve been talking a little bit about the courses being seven week courses. There are two seven week terms that make up a semester and you’re taking one class per each seven week terms. So think of it as, each semester you’re taking a class for seven weeks and then you switch to a second class for seven weeks. And so two classes per semesters, six semesters to complete.
Kim Moy: Awesome. I actually am an online student as well who is in a very similar cohort. And I have to say just being able to focus on one class at a time while maintaining my day job is the only way I would be able to get through it. So that program length is the standard for actually all of the business programs that we have except for the business certificate. Most of them do finish within two years as well. Okay. I have a bunch of questions, but let’s keep moving on and I will keep interrupting.
Sean Dove: All right. Let me get back to the support that we provide to our students. Once the student has decided that they want to apply for the program, you’re going to be working with your enrollment advisor. They’re going to make sure your application is as strong as possible. Then once everything is complete, we run a final audit of it to make sure everything is there for you. We then go ahead and forward it onto the admissions committee. Usually it only takes maybe a week to two weeks to get an answer back and two weeks is the extreme. It’s very rare to even take a full week to get an answer back. So the faculty here is outstanding. They’re very quick and getting answers back to our students.
Sean Dove: And then once you do get accepted into the program, your enrollment advisor is going to work with you and get you set up with your student support specialist or your student coach. I think some of them may call themselves managers, but regardless of what they called themselves, they are going to be your best friend as you’re going throughout the rest of their program. They’re going to be with you from the day you get accepted into the program all the way until the day you graduate. I jokingly say to consider them your educational concierge. In the very beginning of they’re going to help you take you through orientation for the school, make sure you have all the information you need to get registered for classes. They’ll assist you as best they came with financial aid, making sure you have the contact information. You need to get all of that taken care of before classes begin. They’re going to be the ones making sure you know which classes to register for, the books that you’re going to need.
Sean Dove: And then throughout the semester as you’re going through the class, they’re going to be keeping in touch with you just to see how you’re doing. If there’s anything that they can do to be of assistance for you. Like I said, they are a great asset to you and that’s just another layer of support that we do offer our students. And like I said, whereas your professors, they could change every semester or every seven weeks depending on the classes you’re taking, your student enrollment specialist or your student support specialist is going to be with you all the way to the day you graduate. So you’re going to build a bond with them. You’re going to start to recognize their number, you know that they’re going to be calling you once a month or every couple of months just to see how things are going. And again, just another layer of support that we do offer to you.
Kim Moy: I have a question here about our student support specialist. Now, sometimes our students are like, I said it earlier, they are going to be working so they have some odd hours. How do they get in touch with their student support specialists? Do they text?
Sean Dove: Good question. They actually will text you, email you, give you a phone call. You let them know what’s best for you because they’re there to serve you, not the other way around. So you’ll let them know what you need and they’re going to go out of their way to make sure that you have the support that you need to go into the program. Like Professor Foehl says, everybody in these programs, they’re professionals. You’re typically working day jobs so we know that you’re busy. So if you need a phone call on a Saturday or in the evening, let them know they can accommodate you. They’re here to work for you. So I hope that answered the question for you.
Kim Moy: But four academic questions, who should a student turn to?
Sean Dove: The first point of contact would be your own professor in your class. They’re the ones that are going to be, obviously they’re providing you with the information that you’re learning in the program. They’re going to be the ones grading you on all that sort of stuff. That’s who you want to reach out to first. In the rare case, and I’ve never heard of this being an issue that you can’t get ahold of your professor, then obviously reach out to your student support specialist. They can certainly assist you. But again, I’ve never heard of the case where you’ve not been able to find a professor that’s willing to bend over backwards to help you as you’re going through the whole program.
Kim Moy: I believe that we’ve heard that Professor Walton has some great stories about connecting with some students and working with the students sports specialist, Mike just to get some issues resolved. So Professor Walton, do you have any contacts that you could provide us?
Kelley Walton: Yeah. I think the best way to say it and hopefully I can give you all a couple of good examples of this, but in the Masters of Athletic Administration program, we’ve got a great team. We’ve got some great dedicated faculty in our program who have extensive experience in interscholastic athletic administration as well as a great student support specialist. So whenever somebody is going through something, because I’ve had students who are pregnant and due at the time an assignment is due or something like that. And they work with Mike Walden who’s our student support specialist and myself, as either the instructor or director to plan ahead and deal with those kinds of situations. We have some extremely dedicated students who find ways to work through those.
Kelley Walton: We also have some very unfortunate situations sometimes where a student has a very difficult situation. We had an athletic director in Central Ohio just two weeks ago. A student was killed in a car accident and obviously as she’s going through her studies, she needed to take a little bit of a time off to deal with a very tragic situation. So she reached out to her student support specialist and her instructor and myself as well. And we did what we could to make sure that she had the time she needed to complete her assignments. Because while we all believe school is important, family and life matters too. And so we really try to take into account, that we’re here to support people in a variety of different ways, not just from an academic standpoint.
Kelley Walton: And I think somebody had asked too, and this maybe ties into that a little bit. What are the seven week condensed courses? What does that mean? They’re pretty intense courses and depending on your program, I think each program has a different time commitment whether it’s 10, 12 or 15 hours a week, there’s an expectation of dedication and time and we are here to help you. We’re here to educate you, but we’re also here to support you. And so I think those are a couple of examples where people go through things in life and they also are so very dedicated to their studies and their careers and we’re here to help them be the best athletic directors and support staff and interscholastic athletics that they can be. So we try to be the same to them.
Kim Moy: Awesome. Thanks so much. That was great.
Sean Dove: As you see on the next slide here, some of the additional resources that do have available to you, the 24/7 tutoring services. That is an outstanding service that’s available to our students. I know that I’ve had some students that have newborns and they’re doing their studies at one and two o’clock in the morning. They says the baby’s got them up, they’re trying to rock them back to sleep. That’s when they do their studies and know that you have help available even at that time of day is going to be invaluable to you. Again, this is designed to work around your schedule, not the other way around. But as you take a look at the list there, there is a wide variety of services. Ohio University is dedicated to help you succeed and to provide you with all the support that you need in order to do so.
Sean Dove: I’m going to go ahead and ask Sonali to pick up from here.
Sonali Ibanez: All right. How to be a successful online graduate student. First of all, self motivation is definitely key. Without motivation, it is definitely hard to commit. And you also want to make sure you have a strong support system. We do provide you with many different resources being a eCampus students such as Sean mentioned the 24/7 live tutoring, the student support specialist as your main point of contact. So be sure to take advantage of those as well. Also having effective time management skills, it is very important. We do develop our programs to meet the hectic demands of working a full-time position. So just take into consideration the amount of study hours that are needed for our graduate program to ensure your success.
Sonali Ibanez: And also even having a good working environment. This is going to help you avoid distractions and be able to concentrate. And the most important, do not be afraid to ask questions. As Sean mentioned earlier, your first point of contact should be your professor. You can even schedule virtual office hours with them if you have any questions regarding the coursework curriculum, things like that. And you can even connect with other students in your class. We do have that 24/7 live tutoring. So if you’re getting off of work late or as Sean mentioned you have time at odd hours, you definitely can access your studies and get that help that you would need.
Kim Moy: Okay. All right. I have a question for Professor Foehl, I know that you teach both in the online program as well as the on ground program, so you have access to both the online graduate student as well as the on campus graduate students. So in your opinion, what makes someone a successful online student aside from everything we just talked about?
Robert Foehl: Well, thank you for this. You put it into your interesting caveat at the very end you said, aside from what we just talked about. Well, I think you for the most part, you hit it on the head. If I would list it out, there’s three or four things that I think are absolutely critical. You hit on a couple of them. What I would say is self-motivation or self-discipline. The courses are asynchronous courses, meaning that you’re working through the course on your own as you … and I say on your own. Not that you don’t have a support network, but just as you go through the materials or whatever, you’re doing it on your time. If there isn’t a scheduled time where you have to be someplace or listen to something or to interact. So you have to have that self motivation and self discipline to do that. And of course, that also dovetails into what you mentioned with respect to time management or organizational skills. You’re going to be juggling your work calendar, your family calendar, your academic calendar. You want to make sure that you’re organized and you’re able to manage your time appropriately.
Robert Foehl: There are two other things that that came to mind as you were talking and one is I would say is committing to engaging with the program or with the courses that you’re in. I think it can be really easy since you’re not on campus per se, physically you are out, you’re doing things in your own world and it’s pretty easy if you want to not really engage very much with the course material or with the instructor or with your colleagues. I think it’s pretty easy to do so. And I think probably inertia makes it even easier to not really engage. And so you have to have a really strong commitment to engaging with the program, with the course material, with the instructor, with your fellow students. And you have to make sure you’re renewing that commitment throughout the course of the program.
Robert Foehl: And then last but not least, I would just say communication. Communication is key. We all understand that the life happens and things that go on in life. You have questions, there’s some things that you might not understand as completely as other things, you might be having a unique situation occur, whatever it is. The key obviously is communicating. When I’m managing my classes and I’m looking at the students in the class and if I’m not hearing from students or those sorts of things, I’m wondering about you.
Robert Foehl: And so making sure that you don’t let things get weird because it’s online, meaning don’t be bashful about reaching out, about communicating no matter what the issue is, no matter if you’re having a problem or if you’re not or if you have a great idea. Some of the best communication I have is from some of my students who say, “Hey, Professor Foehl, we just did this but were you aware of this? I think if you talked about this, this would be really helpful.” That’s all great stuff. So again, just in a nutshell, self-discipline, motivation, organizational skills, commitment to engagement and commitment to communicating, I think are the most pressing factors for success in my eyes.
Kim Moy: Awesome. Thank you so much for that, Dr. Panagopoulos. We’ve heard what makes a student successful. As a professor of online, how do you find the students, having a background, having that work experience behind them, but also adding value to their current careers? Do you have any insight into how the classes work with the people who have more work experience than say, just coming out of undergrad?
Panagopoulos: Yeah, certainly. This is a great question because I have in fact some recent examples from some of my students in the online MBA I teach. I believe in general and this is my cross, the board, the years and country’s experiences teaching executives and MBA students. The more experience someone has in a certain field like marketing strategy, sales management and so on and so forth, the better she or he is to be absorbing the materials and understanding everything and quickly making the connections among the bits of information that they are receiving.
Panagopoulos: Like for instance, I’m going to give a sales example here from the sales analytics, sales leadership classes we are having in our sales certificate. If I present some inflammation as a professor about opportunity identification like or prospect identification or sales forecasting and someone with a significant experience at least five to eight to 10 years. These people are quick to understand and grasp the knowledge and apply this to their own idiosyncrasies and characteristics of their own markets and so on. And usually these are the people who are asking the best questions. So in my opinion, I think experience is a fantastic tool for the student and making all these connections with our material that we’re teaching.
Kim Moy: Excellent. Thank you so much for that. All right, I’m going to pass it back over to Sean.
Sean Dove: Yeah. I just want to throw a personal experience I had since we’re talking about the support that you’re getting from the faculty here. When I was going through my MBA program, and let me preface this. I am not a math person. So there were certain classes that were a struggle to me. No offense, Dr. Stevens, but accounting is not my favorite subject. And when I got to the managerial accounting, that class gave me fits. But I remember one night in particular, I was going through a module and you couldn’t move beyond or to the next question till you had the previous question answered correctly. And I spent a good four and a half hours on a Friday night trying to get this question correct. I didn’t even think about calling the tutoring online aid. It wasn’t available at that time. I was just searching online, going to anything from YouTube to Google and that actually made me more confused.
Sean Dove: So finally about 11:30, I just gave up and went to bed and my professor gave me a call at 10:30 the next morning says, “I see you’re having a problem with such and such.” And then within 10 minutes, I can’t say that I completely understood it, but I knew how to answer the problem from that point forward. It was never an issue again. So that’s the type of caliber of faculty that you have here. They do really care about their students, they want to help you. They will take the initiative. But again, to Professor Foehl’s point, if you don’t hear from them, reach out to them. They are wanting to hear from you. If you’re silent, they’re going to wonder. It’s like you’re going into the classroom, you sit in the back of the class and you’re not participating. They wonder what’s are you getting this can do you need more help? What’s going on there? So definitely reach out. You’re going to find that the help that comes back to you is going to be well worth your time.
Kim Moy: All right, we have a great question here. Dr. Stevens, I’m hoping that you could take this one. How are the courses delivered? Do students have to be logged in at a certain time or are they recorded and do they have to buy textbooks? Tell us a little bit about the experience at least from the math perspective.
Jennifer S.: Sure. So they are seven week courses that as we’ve discussed and most of them are set up into seven modules that address specific learning objective in order to break the material down into smaller pieces to make it more manageable. And so you would have to buy a textbook in most cases, but each week you would have a weekly plan that would outline the readings for that week, the suggested homework problems to work, any cases that you may need to do on your own or you may need to work with other classmates on those cases and turn those in. And then we would have an online class each week.
Jennifer S.: In some cases, some attendance might be required at asynchronous time. So for instance, in the MAcc program, ours would be Tuesday night at 8:00, but we do build in flexibility. So you won’t be required to attend all the Tuesday nights. You might get to pick a few Tuesday nights to attend. And then all of our virtual classes are recorded. So if you miss a class or if you’re struggling with the material and you want to go back and review that material that we discussed in the online class, you are able to do that.
Jennifer S.: So some other classes in the MAcc might not have any synchronous piece and you’re just working on that course on your own time and you could attend the virtual class if you wanted live or you could watch the recording. So each program is different, but we have the program very well structured and very well organized so that you can work through it at your own pace. And again, some of the virtual classes maybe required in the MAcc program and then some may not.
Kim Moy: Awesome. Thank you. That was a great overview for MAcc students. Dr. Foehl we have that same question for the MBA and MBAN program. Do students have to be logged in at a certain time? Are there tests? What is the online experience like specifically for MBA?
Robert Foehl: I can try to give you some insight into that. The first question that tends to be asked is, do I have to be at a certain place at a certain time, that sort of thing. Typically speaking, the courses in the online MBA program are asynchronous meaning there isn’t a particular thing going through the material. You don’t have to do that at a particular day or a particular time or that sort of thing.
Robert Foehl: Now that said, there are a couple things that tend to happen live in the courses. The first one, there’s typically a welcome to the course type of live session that is offered where you’re stepping in the new course in the very beginning of the seven weeks. The professor tends to provide a welcome to the course, gives you a course overview, goals, all that sort of thing. And that’s done live. That doesn’t mean that you absolutely have to be there live. It’s helpful to be able to be there live so you can ask a contemporaneous questions and that sort of thing. Even the welcome class is recorded. So if for some reason your schedule doesn’t allow you to make it, you can actually listen to that.
Robert Foehl: And then the other thing that tends to happen with respect to timing is, we have virtual office hours. Just like you would anticipate, if you think back to your undergraduate degrees and professors being in their offices at dedicated times where the door is open and students can come in and ask questions and seek guidance and help and that sort of thing. It’s a replication of that, except in a virtual world. We’d be using a system, much like the system you’re on today and the professor will have virtual office hours at a set time and then you can choose to come to the virtual office hours and ask questions or listen to questions and answers and those sorts of things.
Robert Foehl: So those are some of the things that happen on more of a time schedule. Could there possibly be a requirement in one of the classes where a professor wants to do something live and really wants you to be there? Yeah, but, I do believe that all the prep professors understand that this is truly meant to be an asynchronous online program. And so it doesn’t really happen like that very often. And even if there is something live, like I said, the lectures are all recorded and those sorts of things.
Robert Foehl: Now, with respect to … your question seem to be greater than that and like what else is the experience like? I mentioned they’re usually divided up into seven modules that align with the seven week term. And you’re going through, listening to lectures, recordings. You might be watching some videos, certainly doing reading, those sorts of things to prepare. And there’s usually an assignment of some sort related to the content. The assignments can certainly vary. I mentioned case studies earlier, which is a common thing that’s used quite often. And in more of your quantitative courses there can be different types of homework where you’re trying to master the quantitative skills that you’re learning about. There are certainly tests and quizzes that can occur in class, there are reflection papers. There’s a whole variety of different things that you could be requested to engage in depending on the particular class.
Robert Foehl: But again, at the outset, the classes are set up in a way that you can maximize your personal time in getting through. And then really what happens is, the things that you really have to, I think, be careful about is managing time and understanding when you have due dates for some of the assignments and stuff that the classes have.
Kim Moy: Excellent. Thank you so much for your perspective. And once more Professor Walton, how does that differ from the MAA program? Do students have to be logged in at a certain time? Do they have to complete any exercises? Could you just describe it a little bit for us?
Kelley Walton: They do not. The MAA program is, I don’t want to say 100% because I don’t like saying 100% on anything, but it is nearly a 100% asynchronous learning. Our students do have availability to office hours, but those are not required. Those are helpful and our faculty usually do those when we have significantly difficult assignments like a Title IX audit or something like that of a school. So there are not asynchronous learning requirements in the MAA program.
Kim Moy: Excellent. Thank you so much for that. All right folks, we’re at the point of program specific questions. Keep sending in those question to that Q&A box. We were working on it and then I’ll have Sean move on to next slide.
Sean Dove: Okay. Well, let’s go ahead and talk about the general admissions requirements for all the programs here. They’re basically pretty much the same. There’s a couple of caveats there. Obviously you need to have a completed bachelor’s degree from accredited college or university. Ideally we’re looking for a GPA of a 3.0. Now, if you had a GPA that was a little bit lower than that, talk to your enrollment advisor about it because there are OneOps and it’s not hard set in stone. It’s not necessarily a deal breaker depending on your experience since then what was going on at the time. So talk to your enrollment advisor. We have a good idea of what the admissions committee is looking for and we can direct you in the path to success there regarding that.
Sean Dove: We’re going to need official transcripts from all the colleges and universities that you’ve attended. Then with the application process, in addition to that, you’ll need to upload a current resume, goal statement, that’s a two page paper. It’s double space so it’s not bad at all. And just talk about, tell the story about yourself. How you’ve gotten to where you are now, what your short term and longterm goals are and how you feel this program is going to help you to achieve those. But that’s pretty simple, they’re three letters of recommendation. And again, the letters of recommendation and the essay that is for the degree seeking not required or the just the standalone business certificates. And with the three letters of recommendation for the athletic administration program, one of those letters does need to be from a current interscholastic athletic director. So a high school or middle school athletic director. You see there the application fees and we do not require the GMAT or the GRE scores for our programs here.
Sean Dove: And to talk a little bit now about the Athletic Administration program, Professor Walton, would you go ahead and just give us an overview of what the … I know you’ve already touched on a little bit, but let’s go into a little bit more detail about the Athletic Administration program.
Kelley Walton: Yeah, sure. The MAA program, again, we’re a very focused program that prepares our students to work in interscholastic athletics, which is for the most part, high school and middle school athletic administration. Most of our students are teachers and/or coaches and/or assistant principals, and/or principals, and/or current ADs, who are looking to I’d say do a variety of things. One, they want to prepare themselves to be an athletic director. Or if they’re already in that role, they want some further knowledge to be better prepared to be a leader in that role. Our program focuses on a variety of different athletic director functions and leadership needs, marketing, compliance and legal issues that face interscholastic athletics, events management, facilities management, fundraising, analytics.
Kelley Walton: And as well, one of the things that we really pride ourselves on is the final capstone course which helps our students pull all of the knowledge that they’ve learned over the two years in the program together to make sure that they are not only ready to implement all of those different tools and knowledge and skills and abilities into the workforce, but that they’re able to present themselves professionally as they go through applying for jobs and taking that next step in their career.
Kim Moy: Thank you. I do have one questions kind of specific to Professor Walton. Do I have to work in a high school in order to apply?
Kelley Walton: No, that’s a great question. We get that a lot. One of the things that we do look for is that our students have some connection to an athletic program. You don’t have to work in one, you don’t have to be a teacher. You do have to have some experience in coaching or athletic administration. And part of that is, we’re looking for students who have the potential and proven potential, I guess is the best way to say it, to be an athletic director. And without requiring the GRE and GMAT, we do need to see some level of experience but you don’t have to be in a school.
Kelley Walton: But we do ask that our students have access to a school or athletic director or athletic program. And it can be a coach, it can be somebody who can run them through different practical assignments. Because one of the things that we pride ourselves on is not just providing students with a general overview of a topic, but we ask them to dive into it and get some practical experience throughout our program so we can help guide them through it. So if somebody is doing an event management plan on a district wrestling tournament, we’d like them to have access to somebody who’s running a district athletic tournament. And we find that, even if you don’t work in a school, athletic directors are usually really open to helping train the next generation of athletic directors. So as long as you have some connection, that is what’s helpful for a lot of the assignments that we have.
Kim Moy: Awesome. Thank you. Another question for you is, do we look specifically at NFHS and NIAAA rules and regulations when talking about Title IX?
Kelley Walton: I would say we look at NFHS rules and regulations and NIAAA policies, procedures and guidelines in pretty much most of what we do. We don’t just take it and send it back to the students where they could go read that elsewhere. But those are the two most important organizations in interscholastic athletics and we hold them in high regard. And so we use them a lot. Now, it doesn’t mean that we don’t question or discuss or in some of our discussions use some of the articles that come out from those organizations and critically analyze whether their opinions are accurate with our current coaches and teachers and athletic directors that are out there right now. But we use those for Title IX, we use those for a variety of most of our courses. Those are two really important associations in interscholastic athletics. Great question.
Kim Moy: Yeah, that was a great question. Can I go into college athletics with this program?
Kelley Walton: That’s a really good question. Yes, I think you can go into a variety of different areas. I don’t think that that’s necessarily the path I’d recommend. If somebody’s interested in going into college athletics, pro sports, Olympics agency type world where it’s not basically anything other than interscholastic athletics in the sport world, I would suggest something more like Ohio University’s professional MSA. And the reason for that is that in interscholastic athletics, most of what we cover is related to the landscape that lives in a very heavy structured school system. And that is very different. The rules, regulations, policies and frankly the money. When it comes to marketing, fundraising, event management and the number of people, it’s very different.
Kelley Walton: So the general concepts are certainly there, but we are very focused on making sure that people understand how this works in the school system. And that’s very different than how college athletics … and I’ll give you just an example, like in an event management plan, we’re focused on a district wrestling tournament or a state water polo tournament. Those are the different kinds of examples that we brought our students through. In a more general master’s type, professional masters of sports administration type program, they’re going to be looking higher at the final four. They’re going to be looking at that kind of an event to run. And so they’re very different scales and there’s a lot of difference to go with it. So technically could somebody go through this degree and be somewhat prepared to run a smaller D3 athletic department? Absolutely, because the skills and knowledge is somewhat there but this is so very specific. They would be missing certain pieces that are very different at that college level.
Kim Moy: Excellent. I think that’s a great insight. Awesome. So it looks like we are good with the MAA question. Obviously folks if you have any other questions about a program that we’ve already gone over, you can always ask it in their Q&A box or send it in our group chat and we can reach out to you directly. So I think we’re ready to move on to MBA.
Sean Dove: All right. Well, just to let you know real briefly here about the MBA program because we have a lot of questions here regarding the MBAs. I want to get to those as quickly as possible. But just so you know, Ohio University’s MBA program is AACSB accredited. If you’re not familiar with that accreditation, only the top 5% of business schools in the world carry that accreditation. That’s the Association to Advance Collegiate Schools of Business. Not going to say that is the highest or the top accreditation out there for business schools, but I can tell you that all of your Ivy League business schools that everybody’s heard of, Harvard, Yale, Princeton, Notre Dame, Pepperdine, University of USC, all of these are AACSB accredited schools. The key differences, you’re still getting the same Ivy League school level of education, but you’re going to be given a state school price here of Ohio University.
Sean Dove: One of the great things about this particular MBA program is we do have seven different concentrations available to you that you can see there on the screen. Like we mentioned before, we do have the Leadership Development Program, which is unique with Ohio University. Not too many online programs do offer this for their students where you get to come in, meet with some industry experts, help you work with your managerial and leadership skills. And then the same high touch or the level of commitment that you’re getting from the faculty here that’s invested in seeing you succeed as you’re going through the program. But with that said, let’s go ahead and jump into some of the questions.
Kim Moy: Yes. I think we can let Dr. Foehl answer this. I just had one. Hold up. Scrolling back down. How much data usage would you anticipate an MBA student using on a monthly basis? This is very specific question about like internet surfaces. Are they required to have a certain connection are they-
Robert Foehl: Obviously I can’t estimate or I’m not in any position to be able to estimate the amount of data that you’d be using for example if you were using a mobile plan or hotspot or something like that. What I can tell you though is obviously in any of the online programs, having a reliable internet connection is important because obviously that’s how you’re communicating, that’s how you’re submitting assignments. That’s how you’re working with teams and a whole variety of other activities, getting the content, video streaming, all that stuff. But what I will say though, is I do have students from time to time who do international travel and for their careers and they travel sometimes to places without reliable internet.
Robert Foehl: I work with them to make sure that if they’re communicating that, that we have a plan for action should a reliable internet connection not materialized for them when they’re traveling internationally to a more remote area or something like that. But in terms of overall what’s the data usage look like, in all honesty, I wouldn’t know that. I don’t think we probably have any data with respect to that and it certainly is going to be dependent upon how each individual student operates and how they actually go through the course. So I apologize for not having more detailed information than that for you.
Kim Moy: No worries. I guess it also depends on where you live and where you work. This one is an interesting one as an online student and also a graduate of Ohio University, will the degree distinguish … does it say online degree on your diploma or your transcript?
Sean Dove: I can answer that one. Or go ahead professor, they would rather hear from you than me anyways.
Robert Foehl: No, go right ahead. You might be able to support this or contrast this, I’m not exactly sure, but it’s my understanding that if you get your Masters of Business Administration for example with Ohio University, that’s what the degree is. It’s an MBA degree. I don’t know that there’s any special or different designation for that degree than a non-campus full-time MBA program. But please if you know differently, let me know.
Sean Dove: No, I was just going to say that, here at Ohio University, we don’t distinguish between online and on campus students. We use the same material you’re learning, a lot of the same professors. So nowhere on your transcripts or on your diploma will it say anything about online. You’re an Ohio University student. Period.
Kim Moy: Here’s a great question. How feasible is it to complete multiple concentrations within the MBA degree? And oh boy, do we got an answer for you there. With the MBA program, I believe you do have to select one concentration, but we do have graduate business certificates available that will allow you to take those concentration courses and grow your knowledge. So for example, if you are interested in finance, you could also take the certificate, get your MBA with a concentration in finance and then get your certificate as well in say strategic selling and sales leadership. So that is totally available to you as a student interested in multiple concentrations.
Kim Moy: All right, good. See more questions, more questions. We will be moving on to MBAN very shortly, but just hang on for me one second. This question is good for … let’s pitch this one over to Dr. Taylor-Bianco real quick. So we have a student who is in the military. How flexible would you say you are as both a program director and a professor in terms of any unexpected travel or deployment that might impact completing in a class or an assignment?
Amy T.B: I think we all work to be as flexible as possible. Having said that though, the more we know upfront. So the nice thing about the online courses and with traveling or needing to be away for a period of time is that you can see everything up front that is going to need to be done. So you can often work ahead. You can certainly work out plans if you’re traveling for a military experiences and that kind of thing, we can definitely work that out with you. We’ve certainly had folks before who’s has limited internet access or otherwise. But the more we plan ahead the better and with the staff in staff out portions of the program, that’s really helpful too in terms of a deployment and that kind of thing. So hopefully that answers your question.
Kim Moy: It did. And then Sean.
Sean Dove: Yeah, I just wanted to mention something on since we were just discussing our active duty military, whether they be in reserves or even our veterans. Something that we just started here with the College of Business for all of our veterans and again, active duty and reserve as tier is, we now offer a $5,000 incentive scholarship for all of these. So that’s something that’s brand new. We are a yellow ribbon program. We do have a highly capable and staffed veterans affairs office. They are fluent in all the paperwork that you’ll need to fill out in order to take advantage of your GI bill, your tuition assistance and all that. So reach out to your individual enrollment advisors. They’ll be able to fill you in more details and be able to direct you to where you can get that detailed information.
Kim Moy: Great. Thank you for that. Coming back over to you again Dr. Taylor-Bianco, someone would like to know if professors are available on weekends.
Amy T.B: Oh yeah. We are available mostly when you’re available really. We try to get back to you. We understand that it’s an online class and that means that you’re going to be doing it when you have free time not necessarily, when we have free time. So we’re going to work with you as much as we can to be available.
Amy T.B: And just just loop back for one minute there. And what Sean said, I think that was really, really important about the veteran scholarship. Just to note too, that there’s a $1,500 scholarship for veterans for the certificate programs as well. And those can be done in a shorter time period. But there’s also a discount there for veterans and for OU alum. But yeah, I think that we really work to be available to you in whatever way possible. Thank you.
Kim Moy: Excellent. That’s awesome insight. Dr. Stevens, I just saw you answered this question for Elizabeth, but maybe you could share your answer with us. So the question is, is there a stigma associated with an online degree being ‘not as valuable’? Do you still see that in the industry at all?
Jennifer S.: No, not at all. Not anymore. And especially at Ohio University where we have a brick and mortar campus and we have a reputation for really quality program, we’ve designed our online programs to mirror on campus programs. So you’re getting the same knowledge. It’s just in a different format, tailored a little bit to a different setting to make it more manageable. And so I think it’s the same degree. It doesn’t say online on your transcript. And I think employers recognize the quality of Ohio University and recognize regardless of online or on campus that it is the same program.
Kim Moy: Awesome. Thank you. I liked that answer as well. All right. I see that there are some very specific questions about, do I have the right undergrad GPA, et cetera, et cetera. I think those questions would best be answered by speaking to an enrollment advisor. Feel free to leave your email address in the Q&A box. We’ll have someone reach out to you directly if you have specific questions about your specific circumstances involving admissions. But I think we can go ahead and we’ll just jump over to MBA, our Master of Business Analytics if you don’t mind.
Sean Dove: Okay, great. Thank you Kim. With the business analytics, that is now the ‘hot field’ in business nowadays. And the reason for it, it’s kind of obvious, but it doesn’t matter what industry you’re in. Everybody needs a business analytics now. Like Dr. Stevens mentioned before, in the 20th century they didn’t have enough data and now we have too much data and that’s where we are right now in the business world. Nobody makes decisions with their companies, some business based off of intuition and necessarily history anymore. It’s got to be backed up with data and that’s why there’s such a need for qualified individuals who know how to gather that data and then know how to interpret it to drive change within their organization.
Sean Dove: The business analytics program here, it’s not that old of a program. You’re going to find that it’s pretty young compared to the other programs that are out there on the market. And the reason for that is simple, here at Ohio University as opposed to rushing to get a Masters in Analytics out there as quickly as possible, they took their time and they built it piece by piece organically as what we’d like to say. Let me contrast that to how a lot of other programs that have already been out there for four or five years now, how they created their programs.
Sean Dove: When the need hit to have a analytics program out there, most schools, they are rushing. We have to hurry up and get a master’s program put together as quickly as possible so we can grab market share. So in order to do that, it takes a long time to build a program from scratch. So what a lot of other programs did or other schools did is they looked at all of their graduate colleges and say, okay, who has different analytics programs that we can borrow from? So you may have a couple of analytics classes from a marketing department, some from the finance department, some from computer services, and you slap them all together. Then they have put together their new Masters in Analytics. That’ll work, but it’s like building a car engine but you’re using parts made by different manufacturers. It may work, but it’s going to be a little rough here and there around the edges. I heard one student describe it as a Frankenstein. I don’t know if I’d go that far, but that’s what you’re looking at.
Sean Dove: The difference here of Ohio University, Dr. Young, is the head of this program. He went to work and created this program from scratch. Every program, every class that you’re going to take in this program was designed specifically for this program. So you’re going to have a seamless transition as you go through it. You’re going to hit on the three different areas within business analytics. That’s going to be your descriptive analytics, predictive as well as prescriptive analytics. And what you’re going to learn from that is you’re not only going to learn how to interpret the data that you have, but instead of just throwing numbers at the decision makers within your organization until their eyes just glaze over, you’re going to learn how to speak in their language. So you’re going to basically tell the story of what that data is saying so that you can drive change within your organization.
Sean Dove: That again is where the LDP comes in. I’ve done my research and I have not found any other Masters in Analytics programs that do offer this sort of leadership training for your students. And as well with the program here, you’re going to be learning on … start off with Excel. Do you need to use SQL, which is pretty standard business language. You’re going to get your R and Python. You’re going to get a very strong and well rounded education. So no matter what organization you’re going to work with, regardless of which program they may be using, you’ll be able to jump right in and get to work immediately with that. But before we go any further, let’s go ahead and open up, what questions do we have regarding the analytics program?
Kim Moy: You spoke a little bit about the programs that students will use. Do you need any prior programming skills to be a student at MBAN?
Sean Dove: Great question. No, when you come into this program, it’s going to be assumed that you know nothing or nothing about the subject matter. There’s going to be a ramp up and it’s going to be pretty quick, but it’s designed so that you can pick up and move forward with it. It’s going to be at a pace, like I said, you’re going to start off with Excel. I would recommend you have some pretty good Excel skills going into this, but if you’re looking for this degree, odds are you’re already very familiar with it. And then from there it’s going to build on top of that.
Kim Moy: Just some fast facts I need from you now. How long has the analytics program been in place? I think it’s pretty recent program I would say. I think it’s 2007, no, it’s 17.
Sean Dove: I think it’s coming up a [crosstalk 01:27:59] now. Yeah, 17. It’s coming up on our second anniversary.
Kim Moy: And you do it 100% online?
Sean Dove: It is 100% online with the exception of the Leadership Development Program that weekend that takes place. Again, if you were to start in January, you’d come to campus and this upcoming August.
Kim Moy: All right. Going back up to the top. For MBA and MBAN, what additional tests are required prior to the program? Well, I think, I think that question is about admissions test. So you do not require GRE or GMAT.
Sean Dove: No.
Kim Moy: Yes, that is true. No GRE or GMAT for any of the MBA or MBAN program. Let’s see, here we go. Master of Business Analytics. So how much computer science is required and how much software tools are used during the program? Okay. Well thank you so much for this question. Our program director is unable to join us today, but we will be sending all the MBAN specific questions over to him directly and if you just pop your email addresses in there are actually technically have it as long as you’ve logged in, we’ll make sure that these questions get over to him and he will email you guys very, very shortly following this program.
Kim Moy: I have a question. Any idea of job titles with MBA in analytics? Are they business directors? Are they analysts job? Can you talk to me a little bit about the job titles? We did a slide a little bit earlier about some of the job titles. I don’t know if we can go back there just real quick. So it is coming.
Sean Dove: And while we’re scrolling back to that, this program is not designed to prepare you to come in and work at entry level business analytics. This program is more designed to move you into the management position and then to quickly move up to the director position of that department. That’s why learning how to interpret that data and be able to tell it in a matter that an outsider can understand it, that’s why it’s so much important. We’re preparing you to become a leader within that department, not necessarily to be sitting there on the frontlines trying to dig up that information, if that makes any sense.
Kim Moy: Great. Oh, here’s a great question. What is the difference between business analytic and a concentration with an MBA in business analytic? Sorry, that was complicated.
Sean Dove: Simple answers to that is if you’re looking for a career in analytics, hands down, you want the Masters in Analytics. The MBA with a concentration in it is not going to give you enough knowledge base in order to jump into that field of working. That’s more for managers who want to know about the analytics program so they have a good working understanding of it, but not necessarily work in that department themselves?
Kim Moy: This is a question that’s interesting. Let’s say a student starts out in the MBA program and they decide they’re taking some of our concentration courses that they want to flop over to the dedicated master’s degree programs in analytics. Could they do that for the same?
Sean Dove: When you’re going through the MBA program, your first nine courses are going to be the core business courses. The last three courses are going to be the classes that are focused within your concentration. So if you had completed the MBA and you’d been took the analytics concentration, those three courses will transfer into the Masters of Business Analytics program if you were to come back and do that. But if you started the MBA program and then you saw that this really isn’t what you’re looking for, you really do want the business analytics, you would know that before you got to those analytics courses. That’s really a nonissue.
Kim Moy: Awesome. All right, I think we are ready to move on to the master of accountancy.
Sonali Ibanez: Hello everyone, first I’m going to briefly give you a synopsis of the Masters of Accountancy and its highlights. So we do have three different paths available for our students. Not everyone has an undergrad in accounting and they are interested in pursuing their Masters in Accountancy. So that is one of the great things about our program. So if you did have your undergrad in accounting, you would pursue the accounting path. If you had an undergrad in something that wasn’t accounting but also business-related, you would go on the business degree path. And then if you had an undergraduate degree that was non business and non accounting, you would be eligible for the non business degree path. So wherever your undergrad was in, we have three different paths to cater to each type of student. So this program is just going to advance your analytical, strategic and critical thinking skills in accounting. And with this masters of accounting program being housed in the College of Business, we are also accredited by the AACSB. So Dr. Stevens, if you don’t mind, could you tell us a little bit more about Masters of Accountancy and its benefits? Dr. Stevens?
Kelley Walton: Oh, she will be right back.
Kim Moy: All right. Not to worry. We’ll go onto the next slide.
Sonali Ibanez: Okay. I’ll go ahead and tell you a little bit about the benefits of the Masters of Accountancy then and once Dr. Stevens is on she can definitely add to that. So with our Masters of Accountancy program, it does help you prepare for the CPA certification. And it does give you the 150 credit hours that you would need to sit in the CPA exam. So this is a program depending on the path that you were eligible for, you would be able to finish it within five to eight semesters. So that’s either a year and a half to three years.
Sonali Ibanez: Our curriculum is aligned with today’s industry leading best practices. With our Masters of Accountancy program, we also have the residency experience of the Leadership Development Program workshop. So besides that, everything else is online. It is an asynchronous program. There might be some live required lectures on there as Dr. Stevens mentioned earlier. But if you have any specific questions, do you reach out to your enrollment advisor or Dr. Stevens or even type them in the Q&A box. We’ll definitely be sure to answer those two later. Thank you.
Kim Moy: All right. So while we’re waiting for Dr. Stevens to get back, I do want to keep this … oh, she just came back. Awesome. Welcome back, Dr. Stevens. We were just talking about-
Jennifer S.: Sorry, that was terrible timing. My call dropping. Okay. I’m here.
Kim Moy: [crosstalk 01:35:35] as well as we could. Could you talk to us a little bit more about the Master of Accountancy in terms of program highlights and benefits for students?
Jennifer S.: Sure. Well, first of all, we do have those three paths. So we are able to accommodate the needs of any undergraduate degree for anyone that’s interested in pursuing accounting. And the good news is any of those three paths are going to get you to the CPA exam requirements and most if not all of the 50 States. And so this is a very fast and efficient path to the CPA exam. However, our goal is not to train you to pass the CPA exam. We will prepare you for the CPA exam, but we really want to train you to be leaders in your organization from a financial perspective and be able to turn financial data into information that’s useful for decision making.
Jennifer S.: And so we’ve created a case based curriculum. So you will get foundational skills, but you’re also going to get advanced skills and auditing and tax in forensics. And we have included nine credit hour or three core sequence and data analytics because data analytics and accounting really go hand in hand. Accountants are good with financial data and turning financial data into information. And so accountants nowadays really do need strong data analytics skills. So we have, again, a path for you. And then upon graduation you’d be eligible to sit for the CPA exam and you would have a lot of job opportunities after that. We are accredited in the school of accountancy at Ohio University from a College of Business perspective and we are accredited in this school of accountancy. So we have a dual accreditation which is very rare, and it is very valuable.
Kim Moy: Awesome. Going along the lines about taking the CPA exam, so obviously Ohio University located in Ohio and our students are online located all throughout the United States. So do students … can they take the CPA exam in any of their home States or wherever the States they are residing or does it have to be in Ohio?
Jennifer S.: The actual exam is going to be the same across the country, but you will want to sit for the exam and take the exam for the most part in the state that you live in and that you want to work in. Basically each state is going to have nuanced requirements. They’re all going to have 150 credit hour requirement, meaning you’d have to have a 150 credit hours of college coursework in order to sit for the CPA exam which our program would meet. And so you would want to double check in your state the exact educational requirements and email me. I’m almost positive we meet all of the educational requirements in all 50 States, but there may be one or two States that maybe have like a three hour ethics requirement, which we would cover, but we just want to double check to make sure that we are helping you meet your state’s requirements to sit for the CPA exam.
Kim Moy: Excellent. All right, so here’s another question. I just wanted to double check this information. Stand by for one second. Okay. So the question is, if I get the MBA with a concentration in accounting, would I sit for the CPA exam as well and what is the difference between the two programs?
Jennifer S.: In general, you have two requirements to sit for a CPA exam, a business requirement and an accounting requirement from a credit hour perspective. An MBA would help you meet the business requirement, but you’re not going to meet the number of accounting hours that you need by just getting a concentration in accounting unless you have a lot of undergraduate accounting. So you would need 30 hours of accounting in most States in order to sit for the CPA exam and meet that accounting requirement. So an MBA with a concentration in accounting is not going to get you to the CPA exam requirements. Unless, again, as I mentioned, you have a lot of undergraduate accounting, basically a full undergraduate accounting degree.
Jennifer S.: The Masters of Accountancy is designed to meet both the business and the accounting requirements for the CPA exam. So it’s going the whole nine yards basically. So you would be able to sit for the CPA exam after following one of the three paths within our Masters of Accountancy program and getting that degree.
Kim Moy: Excellent. That answers that. This is a very specific question. I don’t know if you know this one, but for the MAcc degree do you get a week off to take the exam?
Jennifer S.: You will want to usually sit for the exam after you’re done with the program. So in order to qualify to sit for the exam, in a lot of states, you would have to actually have the degree complete. In some states you might be able to sit for it early, but then you wouldn’t be able to get the credential until you actually completed the 150 credit hours. So we don’t give you specific time off to take the exam. Again, most of the time you’d want to take it after you complete the program. But in some States you could be able to be working on the CPA exam concurrently with the MAcc. But again, you couldn’t actually get the license, your CPA license until after you had completed the coursework and you have an experience requirement on top of that for license here in most States.
Kim Moy: Got it. I got it. Perfect. So as a program director, you’re one of the main people who are looking at application. Is there anything in particular that MAcc applicants should be putting in their personal statements or a special type of letter of recommendation for anyone? What do you look for as a program director to make the decision about whether someone would be accepted or not?
Jennifer S.: I guess the first thing I look for is the direction and motivation that the student has thought through their career goals that they have come up with, a path to meet their career goals and that those career goals are in line with this degree. So I like to see that they have that direction. And then I also like to see that they have the motivation. So they’ve worked hard in the past, they have some demonstrated undergraduate successes or work experience successes that they can talk about and that they’re ready to engage in our program. A big, piece of graduate work is collaborating with your fellow students. You learn from each other, you’re building your professional network. And so I want to see students who are going to really plug in and engage in our activities and get the most out of our program.
Kim Moy: I love it. Awesome. Thank you so much Dr. Stevens. And with that, I think we are ready to move on to our next degree, the Master of Science in Management. So Sonali, do you want to just take us through some highlights real quick?
Sonali Ibanez: Sure, sure. The Masters of Science in Management is also accredited by the AACSB since it is housed within the College of Business. There is no GRE or GMAT required for admission and this is another program that can be completed within two years. If you wanted to get your MSN degree, our coursework is in leadership and management. So you will start with that certification and then you can customize the program, the remainder of your degree, the choice of two stackable certificates listed below, either in business analytics, business venturing and entrepreneurship, human resources management and operations and supply chain management. So if you don’t mind Dr. Taylor-Bianco, could you give them a little more insight as to what the benefits are of this program, what the program is really about and what they can gain. Thank you.
Amy T.B: Yeah, that’s a great overview. The program is really focused on honing in on your leadership skills and on working, leading and managing within a system. So within an organization, within a business system. So we work on things like strategic thinking, you’ll be using case studies and other examples to develop a portfolio of knowledge as you go through. So we have different certificates that you can focus in on. And in each of those certificates you’ll do an individualized project that will allow you to look at industry or business in your particular area, and you’ll end up with a series of this project.
Amy T.B: So you do one for the management leadership certificate, you’ll do one for each of the other certificates. And then by the culminating project and the program, you’re going to be working on an area that you know of. All of those is really most interesting to you and we’re going to help you, work either within your organization or another organization to focus in on that project. So a lot of people who do Masters in Management are looking to do management consulting and that kind of thing or just to move up in a general management position. So some people are using it to get into management in general. The majority of people I would say would use it to move up within their current position.
Kim Moy: Great. That’s awesome. Could you tell us what the word stackable means?
Amy T.B: Yeah, great question. Great question. The nice thing about the program from a user perspective is that you can take one certificate at a time. The program, just a quick overview generally, it consists of three certificates and then not a certificate but a capstone experience. So you can stack those any way you want. Say you do the MBA and you then are interested in a particular certificate. You take that certificate and that’s nine credits. And then at any time you could decide to add into the Masters in Management program or it’s becoming increasingly common for employers to say, “Hey, well we’ll really help you get a certificate in your area of interest. We’re not sure about whole degree program, but we’ll help you in a certificate area.”
Amy T.B: So you can stack these certificates over time. You can literally take your fall, maybe fall and first class in the spring where you work on certificate. You could do that every year for a couple of years. Or you could go through just like you would the MBA or the Masters of Accountancy or so forth in a sequential order. So it just allows you to back them in different ways.
Kim Moy: Excellent. And if I’m not mistaken, eventually more certificates will be added as we move along in the years. Correct?
Amy T.B: Absolutely. We’re already working on those and we’re just working through some final approvals so you’ll see quite a few more added over time.
Kim Moy: Awesome. All right. Thank you so much. I think we can move on to the Graduate Business Certificate if there are no questions in there. All right, so Sonali, do you want to just to quickly take us through to the certificate?
Sonali Ibanez: Yeah. We also have graduate online business certificates and once again it is accredited with AACSB. Each certificate can be earned in as few as 21 weeks, which is about a semester and half. We do have currently seven online graduate business certificates to choose from depending on which ever one you’re looking for. And then these certificates are great because they are stackable. They can be applied to our graduate business degrees should you want to pursue those in the future. So Professor Foehl, if you don’t mind, could you just tell us a little bit more about the graduate business certificates, what their benefits are and what it’s like?
Robert Foehl: Yeah. I can talk to you just a little bit about the … when Dr. Bianco-Taylor was talking about the Masters of Science in Management and was talking about the graduate business programs within that and the certificates within that. The one that I’m obviously most familiar with is the Graduate Business Certificate as it relates to human resources management. So I can certainly talk a with respect to that and I might be able to give a sense of what one of the certificates look like, but I don’t want to take the time to do that if that isn’t going to be helpful to the general audience.
Kim Moy: I certainly think it would. If I’m not mistaken, each certificate with the exception of one of them is structured in three classes. Correct? And it’s still not seven week cohort. Talk to us about that.
Robert Foehl: Yeah, absolutely. Each of the certificates are our three courses and those three courses are definitely in the seven week format for example. I’m just using it as an example because I’m most familiar with it. The certificate in human resources management has three classes. One is on talent acquisition and strategic management, another is on performance management and total rewards and the third one is on employee relations, ethics and legal aspects of human resources management. And so you have three courses that dive deeply into the different areas of that discipline. And it’s designed for you to be able to take those three courses in any sort of order. There might be a more natural order, but you don’t have to take them in any sort of sequence. You have to complete the three courses in order to actually get the certificate.
Kim Moy: What in your experience, you’ve had a large background in legal and HR. Do you think that certificate, if it’s shorter than a regular master’s degree program, do you find that there will be some benefits with employers and advancing in your career and learning leadership skills with taking certificate?
Robert Foehl: Yeah, I think these certificates are really beneficial in a sense. And doctor, I was going to say Dr. Amy, Dr. Taylor-Bianco mentioned it earlier that when you think about this, employers a lot of times are interested in and many times in ensuring that their employees are building appropriate skills that the employer will be able to take advantage of. And some employers don’t have a full master degree tuition reimbursement type of program and that sort of thing. And the flip side of this is sometimes students aren’t maybe necessarily interested in getting a full master’s degree either because of the time commitment isn’t right with where their life is or due to other financial considerations.
Robert Foehl: And so this is a way to be able to advance the skills that you need to advance. It will help you advance in your career. And this is the beauty of the stackable certificates that you do that and then maybe you take a certificate now that advances your career and then maybe you see a certificate later and the next thing over the course of time, you could easily translate that into an actual master’s degree. For for example, for the HR certificate, one of the things that was important for us in designing the certificate was understanding the fact that many professionals go into the business world and they work as individual contributors and they don’t have a team reporting to them. But as their careers advance, then all of a sudden an opportunity starts to arise or is on the horizon to actually manage a team of people.
Robert Foehl: But yet, for many of the professionals or individual contributors who get to that point, they realize, wow, I don’t know very much about managing people. I didn’t talk about this in my undergraduate degree. I’ve been working as an individual contributor. I want to really become a great leader and I need to get a good basic understanding of the environment and the recent opportunities and the processes when it comes to managing people. And so for example, the HR management certificate is sitting out there to enable those individual contributors who have been high achieving in their individual roles to actually transition into their leadership journey and grow and develop personally as they step into the role of being a manager of people for the first time or maybe they’ve managed a few people, but now they’re going to manage a sizable team.
Robert Foehl: And so the certificate is designed to enable that person to attain the skills and the development necessary. And that’s not just about the HR certificate. The other certificates do a very similar sort of thing. You’re in an area like operations and you need to build skills to be successful in your current job or in or in that next job that you’re being promoted to or you’re taking. The certificates to sit there and allow you to gain those skills without having to commit to an entire master’s degree program if it isn’t right for you at that particular time.
Kim Moy: I love it. That was great insight. And as you can see on the slide, these certificate courses can be applied to most of our graduate business degree programs as well. So as you said, if people decide that they like it, they like our faculty, the like the student experience, you can always just keep going. We’re here for you. So thank you so much for that perspective.
Kim Moy: I’m just going to check one more time to see if we have any question. We have a lot of specific questions on there guys and don’t forget we will have our enrollment advisor team reach out to you if you have any specific questions. But I wanted to thank so far all of our speakers for joining us today, you were all fantastic and that is just a small slice of Ohio University’s College of Business faculty. They’re all like that. They’re all fantastic. All willing to help students.
Kim Moy: So last minute Q&A, please send them in there. Also on the screen, you will see our contact information. Like I said just by joining us today, we do have your email addresses. I probably have jotted down quite a few, but if you want to email us directly you can reach out at email@example.com or give us a phone call at a time most convenient for you at 18662267643.
Kim Moy: Some quick housekeeping notes. We have three starts per year, fall, spring and summer. We are currently recruiting for spring. And then a lot of you were interested in getting a application fee waiver. We do know you are here. Don’t worry. We’ve been keeping attendance. And so if you are interested in applying for this spring, just get in touch with your enrollment advisor. We do have a code for you. I’ll send the list over to them to make sure that they know that you were here. And I see one question. Is the application process for certificate the same as the full master’s program? And Sonali says no.
Sonali Ibanez: For your graduate certificate you would have to have obviously a bachelor’s degree from an accredited university, a GPA preferred of a 3.0 or higher. And then you would also, for the application process you would submit your resume, your official transcripts from every post secondary institution that you have attended, and Sean, am I missing anything? That’s pretty much about it. Yeah.
Kim Moy: Awesome. So that answers that question. Thank you all so much for joining us today. It’s been a super pleasure. I appreciate how active you were in our question and answer session. Again, you can keep on sending in these questions. We’ll make sure we answer them. If not me personally, we’ll make sure our enrollment team gets in touch with you. So thank you all so, so much. We look forward to hearing from you soon.